chain mail

[Thaner]

[Thaner]

also was in wanganui today, and in stardust creations I saw a chainmail coif (with mantle) constructed fromw hat appeared to be aluminium 16 gauge wire, they were selling it for ...$500 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I quizzed the lady and suggested that a coif made from decent steel could be purchased for under $120, she got a bit annoyed wif me

on a serious note, as for the amount of that zenith galv, wire you are gonna go through for something like a coif... I know it's not the kinda thing they had around at the time but soak it in salt water for a week with an electric charge in it and problem solved, but yeah. You go through 5 rolls of 30m packs of the wire to make a coif with a half mantle. thats with a winder in the range of 8mm or so diameter

[Ryu_Soma]

when finding suitable wire - galvansied or not? what type of cheap wire would ppl recommend - i will have a look at the Zenith tie wire tomorrow

[Bogue]

Things like tie wire and galv electric fence are low tensile mild steel.
Easy to make chain out of but make sure you have plenty of spare links and a pair of pliers on you at all times. 'cause you'll be spending a fair bit of time repairing it.

Go for high tensile wire.
There was a farm supply store on the Cnr of Egmont Rd and main rd to Waitara. They had the stuff but the hardest part is getting it in 16# you may have to go to 2mm. In which case you can save a fortune by using metal coathangers (2mm high tensile) as many places just throw them out.
Harder to make up but lasts longer.

If you run it through a couple of bits of sandpaper as you are winding your springs you'll get rid of a large proportion of the Galv which will allow you to oil it up and get that nice aged (Like rust but different) look.

Better to get it right than spend hours knitting up a coif and mantle and having Fungus tell you it won't be any good for combat. 'cause that's just gutting.

Hope that helps


Cheers
Bogue

[wuzzle]

Ok you lot

don`t even bother with most of above chain options

Bear in mind this is for protection not show!
Can not recall alot of galvanised any thing Way back when....

Would strongly suggest you contact Justin and Sophie

AKA ALL FIRED UP I do belive they are doing a bulk
link purchase

Dimentions: 1.6 gauge 10mm inside diameter SPRING STEEL
is what I am using (check to confirm)

Yep SPRING STEEL not "cob webs"


I belive you would apreciate Said SPRING STEEL the first time
some smhuck engages your neck area in one of those "opps" moments

Let us remember unless you are a LARPA

we fight with steel not feathers
and I for one will never comprimise propper protection for
expediancy!

If you think you should comprimise I would suggest you ask
our SOUTHERN NORSE THANE DAWSON to describe what
it felt like to do a well controlled head blow resulting in
a very foolish re-enactors helmet caving in!
due to the expediancy of helmet making using salvaged
washing machine peices

I shudder to think what could have been the result of that
had he not been lucky and facing a well controlled and
experianced opponent

[Keeghan_M]

hi all

im making a chain curtain for my helmet (to cover the back of my neck) and i know ill have to rivet it on, just wondering how i use rivets, what tools are needed etc. Sorry if this is uber basic, im really new to metal, never done anything with metal before

[griff]

Quote
" i know ill have to rivet it on"
you dont have to rivet it on just drill a series of small holes along the bottom of your helmet (where your chain will start hanging from) and use your chain links to secure it.

[Keeghan_M]

ah, now thats a brilliant idea, thanks griff

[Oskar der Drachen]

When I've made a chain drape for a helmet I found the easiest way was to fold the chain into leather and then attach that edge to the helmet.

You can rivet, sew it with cord or leather, or use Vervelles. the below is a link to the Armour Archive that has some good discussion and a nice picture or two.

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=80687&highlight=vervelles

Basically a Vervelle is a rivet that fits through the metal of the helmet and the leather wrapped edge of the mail. The vervelle has a hole drilled in it that just sticks out past the surface of the leather and a cord goes through all the exposed ends to hold the drape on.

[Oskar der Drachen]

[griff]

here s one

[griff]

heres another

[Keeghan_M]

that last image is basically exactly what im trying to achieve, but on a nazal helm. I wonder how hard its gonna be to drill through the helm...

[griff]

as Oskar der Drachen says it is good to be able to remove the chain without to much drama.
i personally stich mine.
tryed to upload two more examples but i have reached my max upload so i will do it later

[hopies]

http://www.armourarchive.org/

go to the disuccion area. go into the newbiw thread.

Armourers from around the wold will answer your question.

Take some time to read the threads first. Most of your questions have already been asked and answered.

Sophie