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Gerard Kraay




PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:01 pm     Vids on Viking single combat. Reply with quote

Bloody Norse… I mean, New Vids on Viking single combat.

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=85500

This is an old link, but some good use of the Shield, almost Winding with the shield.

GK

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Stuart




PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:45 pm      Reply with quote

Three observations:
1) These guys need to learn to use a shield, not just pose with one.
2) Stop holding a sword up in the air like a spare P****.
3) Quit pretending to be Ninjas, and start wearing decent viking armour and proper helms.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:15 pm      Reply with quote

1. Its pretty obvious that these guys are demonstrating techniques rather than fighting. They are demonstrating ways of getting around a shield. Its not sparring, its not a fight display, and its not claiming to be.

2. They are holding the swords in a very common and versatile ward - and yes, they could do things to counter those techniques but I assume that's not part of the drill.

3. This is not the WMA part of the forum - why do you expect them to be wearing period armour? They aren't doing a re-enactment display?

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Gerard Kraay




PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:52 pm      Reply with quote

I’m not surprised that you have the above observation Stuart.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

They are using their shields to close off the lines of attack and to control and open their opponents up to attacks. Their using shield attacks from Talhoffers duelling shields section. I presume your not suggesting you know more then Talhoffer, so since you don’t like their interpretations, please advise your interpretation of Talhoffers duelling shield section.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:49 pm      Reply with quote

All of which suggests they are rubbish.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:03 pm      Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
All of which suggests they are rubbish.


Shocked I just realised my mistake. I shan't bother again.

Thanks for the post Gerard, I thought it was very interesting. I believe there is also some large shield stuff in Spada (or Spada II). I'm not sure how well it compares to this posting.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:08 am      Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Three observations:
1) These guys need to learn to use a shield, not just pose with one.
2) Stop holding a sword up in the air like a spare P****.
3) Quit pretending to be Ninjas, and start wearing decent viking armour and proper helms.


And some open thier mouths and thus prove thier ignorance.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:44 am      Reply with quote

Ignorance knows no bounds.

Yes Spada has a very interesting article on shield work, written I think by Steven Hand and Paul Wagner.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:16 am      Reply with quote

Both Spada 1 and 2 have articles on large shield use. They are both very good articles and people who use medium and large sized shields should read these articles. The guys on the video obviously did.

Both are available from Chivalry Bookshelf - although be warned that their service is becoming increasingly dodgy. Spada 1 was reprinted but there are only a few copies left.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:05 pm      Reply with quote

I'd be interested to know what weight shields these guys are using.

My experience is that Norse rounds aren't that easy to push around.

but I'll have a flap this weekend at the all thing and let you know.

You "tube downloader" is the tool of the future for technique demos.
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