Proposition for a grade system in NAAMA combat.

[conal]

A. Standard NAAMA combat.
B. Best Blow landed. (Dragon Standard)
C. Combat Archery (Gathering Spec)
D. Dreadnaught Grade.

[Chevalier]

[BigMac]

Geek moment

The NCC-1701 Enterprise was a Constitution class Dreadnought

[kiwifruitbat]

[BigMac]

Sledge hammers at 3 paces

[Patch]

The HMS Dreadnought was a steam ironcald warship launched in 1906 that went on to found a whole class of big gun battleships. They were mostly used in WW1. But I think 'fear no thing' is a good name for that classification of swordplay too.
-Patch

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/HMS_Dreadnought_1906_H61017.jpg

[Stuart]

Here is something to try. Put on your heavest armour and shields.
The whole body is a target ( apart from the hands and head ).
Fight to contact with strong blows. If the opponent does not take your first hit, assume he has not felt it. Accordingly your second blow will be stronger until he does feel it and falls over.
Shields can be hit as hard as you like, as they do not count.
This technique leads to slower more measured combat, and is far more realistic.
It forces more active and aggressive use of the shield and causes the warriors to circle and perform better.
It is also what we teach to stunt performers in the film industry during "fight schools".

[Patch]

The original ST Federation Dreadnaught class was not really any different from the heavy cruiser design except being bigger and with a third engine nacelle. Then it got even bigger and more bulldog-like, but with faster looking engines.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/92/239378590_4c0dfa6e38.jpg?v=0

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/ST/DreadnughtClassDesignEvolution.png

I remember a later one that you see being constructed in the hanger in the movies is much sexier was referred to as the Excelsior Dreadnaught, but I think it was actually an Enterprise B heavy cruiser. Still that was one of the hottest looking ships that they did with an elongated waspish body and very stylish design features, also it’s saucer section is still a saucer, and presumably can detach and zoom about the way saucers should, before they went to those ridiculous lopsided things in the next generation.

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/CanisD/Shipyard/Drawings/ST/EXCELSIOR.png

[stephan]

the hit them harder combat system is fun but has a few flaws


the biggie is when does it stop

as "nope sorry didnt feel it" can mean any thing
while i agree that decent blow combat is best {such is becoming norm at clontarf as a example}

i think the sca have had a few problems at tourneys with rinos and breastplates beng dented and people saying nope didnt feel that one

rember we waer armour so we can hit each other
in reality armour was worn so you protected your self

i dont care if your super man if your arms off your pretty screwed
but nope didnt feel that has a certian black kight feel to it

ere your arms off
no it isnt
yes it is
oh that, its just a flesh wound

[Carl]

While Stephan is right in essence theer is such a concept as "Spirit of the Game" and while Rhino-ing, is a very real possibility you need to remember that it is Cheating in a very subtle and real fashion.

And that is what the Marshalls are for, and if there are no marshalls around to catch said Cheating, then respectfully and gracefully retire and excuse yourself from the combat; we are not forced to fight after all, and it is better to have some pillock call you a pussy than to cause an injury by sconing someone too hard(however much the twat deserved it)

If someone takes the field on God Mode the marshalls should soon pick it up and take them aside for a friendly chat or toe hacking thier arse of the field.

[conal]

Quite so.

[Stuart]

Ah, but you miss the point. In a measured hard-hit system you quickly learn to fight as a gentleman and take your hits. Otherwise it hurts.
You don`t need Marshalls, except for scoring an organised torni.
For all practical purposes the system is self-limiting and self-policing.
It is as near accident free as possible, and certainly teaches you the importance of good shield work.
Give it a try and see for yourselves.

[Carl]

Nope got the point quite well

And I look at a system that is touted to "Self Policing" and think Yeah right i will believe it when i see it.

take the marshalls out and egos Will soon rear thier ugly heads.

and then what?
put an edge on your sword and see how armour Really works

[Stuart]

Nah, I don`t go wiith the edges on swords ( or axes ) - they ruin shields far too quickly !

[BigMac]

When the adrenilin is pumping and the bloods up it is easy to not notice good hits especially in a melee and especially from behind. Which is why I will always take a fighter at his word that s/he got me.

That said I have walked off the feild, having seen people not take hits that staggered them, rather than continue upping the hit to a level I know will cause injury. Not to mention once you start hitting one idiot that hard it can be differcult to then tap politly on his mate who is accepting blows and is not wearing as much armour.