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Effigy
Location: Warkworth
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:44 pm Arrow Bag / quiver |
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Can anyone point me in the right direction for 12th century English arrow containers please? I also want to make myself a really nice vambrace on account of being really good at slapping my own arm.
I like the look of this...
...but I need to know more about it's authenticity.
All opinions and wafflings pertinent to archery in the time of Henry II would be appreciated please.
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Frosty
Location: Palmerston North
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:18 pm |
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hey effigy
i have a quiver like the one above except im working on the leather disc.
the examples of the quiver above was found onboard the Mary Rose. so id say that they are fairly authentic.
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Archer
Location: Taupo
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Effigy
Location: Warkworth
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:16 pm |
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Wipes dribble from chin....
Thats gorgeous..... and Ive seen one in a C12th manuscript!!!! You have jogged my memory. Shuffles off to stack of research notes and wonders why her filing system isn't better.
But bag will have to do for now....
Thank you so much! There are some amazingly knowledgeable people on this list.
Anne
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NigelT
Site Admin
Location: Wellington
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:00 pm |
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Love that Basket Quiver. Very nice.
The Mary Rose sank in 1545. So it's potentially later period than what you're looking for. The problem you have is that it's very difficult to find references to things in that period. You might have to just hazard a guess that they would have had something similar.
Nigel
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Effigy
Location: Warkworth
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:32 pm |
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Oh you aint telling me a thing!
Researching Hawis de Werecewode has severely tested my 5th form Latin and French! The information is out there - it just not in contemporary English. Luckily my major is in visual arts, so I rely on reading the pictures. Which is fortunate because thats exactly why 12th century painters and illuminists had a job - contemporary folk couldn't read medieval Latin , French, English or any other language either
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Effigy
Location: Warkworth
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:46 pm |
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Oh my!
Just spotted something that may have escaped attention.
'Mary Rose' was Henry the Eighth's war ship.
My Monarch is Henry the Second - Eleanor of Aqitaines's husband, first Plantagenet of England.
Henry the 8th was a megolamanic fat boy Tudor -
Grandpa to the Gentleman Pensioners......
Ducks and runs
A
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Freebooter
Principal Sponsor
Location: Hamilton
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:12 am |
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effigy wrote: | Oh my!
My Monarch is Henry the Second - Eleanor of Aqitaines's husband, first Plantagenet of England.
Henry the 8th was a megolamanic fat boy Tudor -
Grandpa to the Gentleman Pensioners......
A |
And Henry II wasn't a megalomaniac?
I must have read the wrong bit of history...
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Gregor
Location: Whangarei
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:12 am |
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Lots of quivers in the bayeux tapestry.
Gregor
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Archer
Location: Taupo
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:58 pm |
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As far as I can tell the Basket type of quiver was used to carry large quantities of Arrows in the back of wagons from maybe the Times of Crecy [the battle] but may have been in use prior.
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Ian
Location: Auckland
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:45 pm |
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I have an arrow bag with the insert along the lines of the one pictured. As far as i have ever been able to find out they date back to at least 1300. i have also seen manuscripts with that sort of bag, and also much larger bags that appear to have some sort of wicker frame work. Not that I can recall where i read it but I think they were indeed for carrying larger quantities of arrows in baggage. For an archer on the march the bag style, with out without some for of insert, appears to be fairly common.
Ian
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Aaron
Location: Cambridge
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NigelT
Site Admin
Location: Wellington
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:43 pm |
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That's really cool. Thanks for the link Aaron.
Nigel
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