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Would you allow advertisments on this site?
No, let's keep it ad-free and run on donations
23%
 23%  [ 5 ]
Yes, but only if they're kept in the For Sale section only
28%
 28%  [ 6 ]
Yes, anywhere on the site, but only if they are small, discrete and from people or companies with a vested interest in reenactment
28%
 28%  [ 6 ]
Yes, banner ads are ok, but only if they are not horrible flash advertisments and from selected sponsors only
19%
 19%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 21

Author Message
NigelT
Site Admin


Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:48 am     Should GD allow advertisments? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

Recently the topic of advertisments on this site came up. The question was put - should we allow selected advertisments in exchange for contributing to the hosting costs of this website?

I know a lot of you rate the ad-free nature of this site very highly. On the other hand, it costs around $300 per year to host this site and keep it ad-free. Yes, there are advertiser sponsored options that would make it cheaper or free, and yes there are overseas servers I could use that would make it cheaper and a lot slower. Ultimately I think what we have going here works really well.

The question I'm asking you is this - would you be prepared to see carefully selected and fairly discreet advertising on the site (ie, no flashing banner ads)? I'm talking about King Of Swords, All Fired Up, The Medieval Shop, and similar companies who are part of the reenactment community or have significant interest in it, as apposed to ads for credit cards, Amazon or Viagra. This advertising would help keep this site running and would certainly reduce my personal costs.

On the other hand, several people (Bogue and KingOfSwords) have made kind donations towards this site already and we still don't have ads. So it's quite possible to keep the status quo with a few kind people making a greatfully received contribution now and then.

One more thing I should say before you vote or hit reply - my intention was always to carry the cost of the site myself, and I will continue to do so with or without any contributions from others. That's my choice and it makes me feel good that I'm giving back to the reenactment community as a whole. That said, contributions certainly make it easier to add more cool stuff, such as the photo gallery, which would not have happened if it weren't for the generosity of others.

Enough said. What do you all think?

Regards,
Nigel
griff



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:04 am      Reply with quote

im all for discreet advertising by relevant companies like the ones Nigel mentioned
stephan




PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:17 am      Reply with quote

how does one vote?
gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:18 am      Reply with quote

click on the circle then submit
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gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:09 pm      Reply with quote

I'm undecided, I did choose the third option but I also like the first and second choice as well but I didn't choose those for a few reasons. If there is small discrete ad's then I don't feel there should be any posts that can be considered advertising or anything in the for sale section from people who are selling for a profit ie the ones that you mentioned in your post. For example http://www.gatheringdarkness.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=715 could be considered advertising (not picking on Justin just using as an example). This means from a moderators point of view you would be putting in more time and effort checking threads for "advertising" and deleting them. It is being anal but why should there be free advertising from members if there are people/businesses that are paying for their adverts?

But on the other hand if there is no advertising would there be enough from donations to support the board? keep the photo gallery going, add other cool stuff?

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did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
did the band play the last post and chorus
did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
NigelT
Site Admin


Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:40 pm      Reply with quote

gt1cm2 wrote:
...I don't feel there should be any posts that can be considered advertising or anything in the for sale section from people who are selling for a profit...


I guess that was badly worded on my part. I was meaning more that other advertisments could appear on the screen only in the For Sale section. I wasn't meaning posts themselves, but more graphical and textual advertising elsewhere on those screens only, not the rest of the site. I personally don't favour this option because it's technically complicated and not that useful to an advertiser.

Nigel
Bogue
Sponsor


Location: Palmy

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:57 pm     advertising Reply with quote

I voted no


I don't think we need advertising in the form of paid adverts.

We should be able to get by without it and those on board that do wish to advertise can place ads in the for sale section (isn't that what it's there for) with out turning it into trademe (No stab intended).


Those that wish to and/or can afford it, donate. Those that don't want to and/or can't afford it, don't. Simple as
There is enough of us able to donate to keep it free of paid adverts.

Cheers
Bogue
Bogue
Sponsor


Location: Palmy

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:04 pm     dandruff Reply with quote

Hey Nigel the site seems to have dandruff.






Haven't you been using your Free and Lovely (Old ad some may remember)

Bogue
NigelT
Site Admin


Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:48 pm     Re: dandruff Reply with quote

Bogue wrote:
Hey Nigel the site seems to have dandruff.


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King of Swords
Principal Sponsor


Location: Napier Hawkes Bay

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:07 pm     Heres my ad Reply with quote

Heres my Ad it's not full on .......every time I post a message I get a free ad

thats why I put in ...and you only get out what you put in !!!!!

I brought this up as I was worried that the site was going to fold and that would be the worse .... then a few ads
I have spoken with the boss and its all good .....Gathering darkness isn't going any where so yeah yeah ......Merry Christmas and a happy new Year to all : " hiccup " .....catch ya all at Taupo .....I will bring a few beers

My Donation to the cause is a drop in the sea compared to what everyone puts in

AND THANKS FOR THE SITE 100% to admin

Nigel you need to be knighted

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allfiredup



Location: Taumarunui

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:06 pm      Reply with quote

i personaly think it should be up to Donations from clubs and in the cost of naama

if everyone just gave $5

wood we need advertisment?


what about yearly subs ??

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White Knight



Location: Orcland

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:17 pm      Reply with quote

I would not be opposed to yearly subs as I think that would be fair and reasonable especially if it was a choice between keeping the site going by paying subs or letting it die.

Flashing ads are too intrusive and way too annoying.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:23 am      Reply with quote

I went with the unobtrusive type. My thought was for someting similar to the top banner the the Armour Archive uses. I personally find these helpful as 1) they are linked to a review page with details about them and a basic rating system, and 2) each time you load a page the ad is a different one.

With this it allows both income generation for the board and the ability to find gear for sale etc.

Just my own opinion though

Nathan

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