1150-1350 armour refrence

[Sir_Thundar]

Hey can any one help me out im looking at joining a club but there time period is 1150 to 1350 i know for a fact that this time period includes the transision to plate and would love to see some refrence or photos or any thing to give me ideas on what elce i need im quite a fan of partial plate and chainmalle and would apreciate any asistance finding what im after

[Oskar der Drachen]

This is one of my favourite 14th century Transitional shots.

[Mad Jim]

hell I'd love a klappenvisor!, dam being in the mid 1200's ahahah

[Nathan]

[Sir_Thundar]

wow you guys are helpfull thanks i love that armour wow
any more full images ?

[Oskar der Drachen]

Right. These are some links I put together for someone else that was into the 14th Century Mafi "Look" and armour. Have a gander through to see what you like. I don't have any secondhand armor, but I am building helmets and gauntlets these days. If you see something you like, and it is within my capability and your budget, we can talk.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51239078

and the absolutely classic one…

http://www.medievalrepro.com/Images/Churburg%20Armour%2001%20044%20copyedit.jpg

and this one has a really good clear picture of the armoured “skirt” that went under the breastplate and over the tops of the legs. In a truly period armour you would either have something like this, which has riveted plates underneath the leather, or a chain skirt.

http://www.ils.unc.edu/~allen/breen.jpg

for another take on the style, here I don’t like the helmet, there isn’t enough taper to the bottom of it in my opinion.


http://www.arador.com/articles/spaulders.html1n These are taken from tapestry, effigy (statues of dead knights) and plaques.

http://www.selohaar.org/essays/arming.htm

Have a look at these two links. If you are going accurately with the Flair that you like, this is what you are aiming at.
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http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/klapp_face_bascinet_sinric/ [/url]

Imagine the above suit with this style of visor, both are equally valid options when or if you get to that stage.

This one is more of a late period Germanic style that I aim at, but still pretty sharp, and has a bit of the flavor the first of your links.

http://www.stormthewalls.kicks-ass.net/Armour/Full/SCAOnePauldron.JPG



You should also consider the colours you would like to wear.

One of the reasons to do that now would be for painting your armour. With you wearing mild steel, it will be *much* easier to maintain if it is painted. Now mine is a uniform (or not so much now) grey. That is going to change for me soon to a white and black trimmed with scarlet.

You should consider some of the combinations the French liked to wear. Blue and gold, blue and white, red and gold. The French wore White crosses on Blue instead of the traditional red crosses on white for the hated English.

http://image.ox.ac.uk/images/bodleian/ms.bodl.264/75v.jpg

Plenty of historical reference to painted armour, and here are some bascinets from a period illustration which were fetchingly done in scarlet with a white “flame” up the front. There are also existing helmets done with schemes you would normally these days see on flame blazoned hot rods. The Medievals were *not* boring when it came to colour.

Here is a Wikipedia page with some period French flags and blazons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_France

Painting should be done right after a polish, and an alcohol rinse to get any grease or fingerprints off. Primer coat with Rustoleum in a neutral colour a couple of layers and then do the colours of choice. Not too busy, half and half is a good choice with a matching insignia of some sort. Counterchanged If you were going blue and white, half-n-half each colour, and then a fleur-de-lys in the opposite colour in each field, blue on white and white on blue for instance.

Think about it, done well it really looks sharp. It looks even better after being banged up a little for that “battle hardened” look. Three or four different spray cans will be cheap if you consider the labour involved in rust removal…

Even red, white and blue were used together in the 14th century,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Louis-innocentiv.jpg

check out the colour schemes in this 14th century illustration.

Oskar

[Oskar der Drachen]

Below is a helmet out of our loaner pile that I built a barred visor for.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41945693@N07/sets/72157623829627881/

Oskar

[Sir_Thundar]

wow thats alot to take in its nice to see a clasic churburg suit of armour i like the pigface bascinet quite alot
and thoes germanic paldrens looked ausome did you make them ?

[King of Swords]

Your lucky, you have the Red Ravens and ME to learn from ..great group of guys that are keen to help out ...Also they have a young guy " Tank " who's been making some pretty serious armour, also graham old hand at turning out some good kit and wait to you see Bouge and our Thorson's handy work ...... But if your buying kit...... shop around ....also.... brought armour will nearly always need work to fit you .....even the helms ...one size does not fit all ...and good armour is armour that fits

[Sir_Thundar]

thanks oh and king you got some awsome armour and wepons i do plan to get bits and peices form you like my helm LOL
im amazed at just how surportive people are

[Oskar der Drachen]

The pictures in the list I sent are other peoples work. I don't have good shots of what I wear currently, but thse pauldrons are the current project.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41945693@N07/sets/72157624146051754/

Oskar

[Sir_Thundar]

wow i rely like those apart from the duct tape LOL did you make the patern yourself or find it on the net ?

[Oskar der Drachen]

It's my pattern, the tape is just for fitting and measuring...

I'm going to fit them with besagews as well. I've just put the pictures of those up. I don't look overly impressed in the picture. The children were squabbling.

I'm going to hang them from a leather tab from the front of the shoulder cop.

This set is for a smaller person than me, so these don't fit me very well.

The whole kit is a globose breastplate, the bascinet in the other flikr set

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41945693@N07/sets/72157623829627881/

eventually with a klapvisor face ( I think ) and some pretty cool fluted vambraces with fan-bearing elbow cops.

He has matching legs, and I think he is going sabatons as well.

Has not decided what if any chain he will be wearing.

The arador link was mis-typed here it is again

http://www.arador.com/articles/spaulders.html

Actually several links were broken, I've fixed them now...

[Sir_Thundar]

has any one got photos of 14th centery knights protection plates ? rge ones that are steel atached to lether

[Nathan]

I take it that you are meaning Coat-of-Plates?
http://www.hoashantverk.se/hantverk/hoas_rustningar/index.html
This guy has reconstructed all the surviving sets from the Battle of Wisby.
I am presently (slowly) building the Wisby Number 1.