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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:15 pm     Le Jeu de la hache Tournament Reply with quote

There was some curiosity about the tournament I will be running at this years convention. I would direct interested parties to details here:

http://swordsmanship.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=414

and video of the last tournament here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8103484485662497681&q=LJH+tournament

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:36 pm      Reply with quote

Had a look and commented.
Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:52 am      Reply with quote

Thanks for the comment Conal. I've been trying to more than a handful of people interested in LJH for about a year now, so interclub sparring may have to wait for a while Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:24 am     Repost after authentication bounce Reply with quote

Tristan,

See if you can get to a tourney or Naama this year.

The advantage of interclub is essentially one of sparring experience. When you spar frequently against a common pool you do develop but in a larger college there's more potential for innovation and development of personal style.

Don't be afraid of the SCAdians either. They have some good safety proceedures and styles. If you can wade through the courtly dross to the fight scene.

Three of so weeks of Aikido would help your chaps in the 'close and grapple' too.

If your getting beaten you're learning. That's the way I try to look at it anyways. Stick at it.

later,

conal.
Callum
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Location: Upper Hutt

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:40 pm     Re: Repost after authentication bounce Reply with quote

conal wrote:
See if you can get to a tourney or Naama this year.


I would second that. Fungus and Kath have been particularly pro-active and accommodating in ensuring that a wide range of activities are represented at year's NAAMA.

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Colin



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:52 am     Re: Repost after authentication bounce Reply with quote

conal wrote:
The advantage of interclub is essentially one of sparring experience. When you spar frequently against a common pool you do develop but in a larger college there's more potential for innovation and development of personal style.


The one caveat there though is other clubs have to be prepared to 'spar' in the style of Le Jeu de la hache. Something at odds with any NZ reenactment rule system that I'm aware of.

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Inigo



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:34 am     Re: Le Jeu de la hache Tournament Reply with quote

Tristan wrote:
There was some curiosity about the tournament I will be running at this years convention.


Can you please post photos of the axes you use?

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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:17 am      Reply with quote

Will do tonight from home where I have the pics.
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Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:30 pm      Reply with quote

Which reminds me, do you want to still run this at the convention? I am anticipating you did Twisted Evil
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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:04 pm      Reply with quote

Yes, I had forgotten I was going to do that Embarassed

Yes, I would like to run a LJH tournament at the convention, if there is enough interest.

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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:42 pm      Reply with quote

Here is a link to instructions on how to make our axes:

http://www.swordsmanship.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?t=147

Version 2 has slightly different shapes, plus two pieces of 3mm nitrile rubber to reinforce the croix so it can be used properly to hook/catch.

http://wamaa.orcon.net.nz/Dscn0663.jpg
http://wamaa.orcon.net.nz/Dscn0669.jpg
http://wamaa.orcon.net.nz/DSCN1020.JPG
http://wamaa.orcon.net.nz/DSCN1021.JPG
http://wamaa.orcon.net.nz/DSCN1022.JPG

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Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:39 pm      Reply with quote

Thanks for that. Am I correct that you're using about 30mm pine dowel? What length?
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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:50 pm      Reply with quote

Sorry, meant to mention the dowel. 25-28mm is usual, it's pine, but not the usual crap stuff you get. It's a much denser grain, and I've only seen it at Hammer Hardware. It's then rubbed liberally with linseed oil (after taping etc, of course)

May I inquire as to your interest?

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Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:19 am      Reply with quote

Tristan wrote:
May I inquire as to your interest?


I was thinking that fighting with pole axes looks like fun and that I'd like to do some. I'm not sure when / where you're planning the next tournament, but if it's convenient (i.e. Auckland) and I'm able to make it, I'd like to.

Having said that, I'm not really interested in doing any WMA lessons beforehand Very Happy unless I have to to be authorised. I have armour etc and can build easily build a boffer axe to your specifications

EDIT: Further Questions...

1. How long is the dowel?
2. Do you break between points being scored?

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Tristan



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:21 am      Reply with quote

We don't have an authorisation process as such. I'm not aware of any particular policy of what to do with people outside the school who wish to assault with those inside the school, but having played with the SCA at St Johns before I don't forsee any safety/authorisation issues.

Sorry, still forgot details on the haft! Length is about 5'8" or so, but it's not really specified, just what is convenient. Longer/shorter would not be a problem, though historically they ranged from 5 to 8 feet, getting longer later in the period. This was, I believe, mainly due to it's use in tournaments at the barrier, so would not expect such lengths outside that use.

No, no breaks between points scored. If you view the video, you can see multiple hits in a row, in particular a nice queue thrust/mail strike combo I was rather pleased with Cool . This does have the unfortunate side effect of making things a little hectic for the scorer!

We use a combination of the marshal calling the blows, and the scorer calling the blows. Mostly the marshal signals the scorer, though he will stop a bout to query the fighters as to whether a blow actually struck or skipped, or where it hit if it was hidden from his sight at the time.

The fighters can also call their own blows if they see fit, but should not stop until the marshal calls hold at 5 blows struck.

There will most likely be a tournament at NZWMA in Wellington next year. It is very uncertain as to whether there will be one earlier, as of the competitors in last years tournaments, only I am still active, and the auckland students have yet to reach a level of skill and equipment that would allow them to participate. I would be happy to go a few friendly bouts with you myself sometime if you want to compare notes, though I warn you I'm terribly out of practice Embarassed

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